Here are two very different quotes about Dexter Yager.
I have been in this business 22 years. The people are real, they are honest and some of them are our best friends. The Internet is full of Lies and false cult stories about Dexter and Amway.
Amway distributors, especially those higher levels such as Emeralds and all that junk I have met are completely dishonest, the most dishonest and deceptive people I have ever met.
I would trust the opinions of those not trying to sell me something 1000 times more than those who are out to take my money, and have been accused of being cult leaders and scam artists by courts and well respected people, not just brave whistleblowers and internet people.
Just look at the recent court case where Amway was found to be operating as a pyramid scheme.
How do you explain a federal court case, or is this a lie as well in your deluded little head?
I have personally met Dexter more than once.
Majority of people who talk about it either never got in to see the truth or got in and found out you actually had to Work.
You want to know the truth. You check it out by getting involved. If you need a surgeon, you don't go to an Architect. Talk to the people that have made money. That is how you find out the truth.
Actually No, If you want to find out about a car, would you trust a used car salesman? Fail!
Do you need to go to a casino, and try spending your money in there for years to really know it is a scam?
If you want to know the truth about Amway, you would probably trust a judge, or someone who has experienced a cult or scam first hand. Word of mouth is how this world operates.
I would talk to the people who've made money, if only I could find any!
In 22 years, i am sick of the stories that people post about Amway and the majority of them will not even leave there name. The sexual harassment suit, is bull. This man would not hurt a fly.
If it is not true, why are so many people quoted on record, and there are quotes in court documents testifying cases like this? Everyone knows it's true, and it has been proven.
You can not disprove any of these things, and everything you read about Dexter or Amway on sites not run by Amway staff are usually true. If they were false facts and not just opinions, then wouldn't they be shut down and sued to defamation? To accuse people of being liars without any evidence such as court documents proving otherwise is pathetic. It sounds like typical cult behaviour to me, where you support such monsters, and accuse everyone else of being the bad person without any justified reason.
and then this quote:
I was a member of Dexter Yeager's NY group for about a year. It took me that long to start seeing through the people and my Up Line sponsor. My sponsor closly followed Dexters attitude in every way. Politics and do it my way or else got old in short order.
To be fair I learned some principles that helped me succeed in other area's of life in which I became very successful. Since I left Amway in 1982 my life has been great. I managed to get out before I lost my family. Thank God!
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Saturday, April 2, 2011
Thursday, March 24, 2011
Dexter Yager
We were contacted by someone with a long discussion about Dexter Yager, claiming they were an "old school Amway family", obviously some pro amway person with a lot of positive things to say about Amway and a vested interest, but their quotes included below about Dex are quite negative, which gives the impression they must be telling the truth.
Ok this is meant for all the Amway haters out there. Dexter Yager really screwed up things for Amway! Yes he made a lot of money but his problem is he thinks he's God but he's not. He didn't care about his customers or the people he sponsored. All he cared about was the money. Jay Van Andel and Rich DeVos did not start this company to hurt anyone (just makes lots of money at any cost). Dexter Yager is a crook. Amway is a multi level marketing company just like Avon or Mary Kay except they carry more than just makeup. It might be about scamming people but it's not about hurting people, it's about selling a product. Dexter Yager really hurt the company with the things that he did. My mother always told me don't let one person ruin a good thing for you. But the fact of the matter is when a person has such a powerful position they can completely destroy something for you and there is nothing you can do about it.
Now my family has been a part of Amway since 1965. My grandparents were very close friends with Rich DeVos and Jay Van Andel. They also knew Dexter Yager. No one has ever had a nice thing to say about that man. But Jay and Rich were very intelligent people and had much integrity towards each other, and knew they could take advantage whilst still appearing nice and charitable. My father grew up with their children. My grandparents used to play bridge with DeVos's and Van Andel's. These are good people trying to run a business that is not like others. They try to offer more than just make-up and perfume. You think it up and they probably sell it if it would make them a buck. Amway is a company that purports to sell quality products, natural products, and getting your money's worth, even though this is proven to be false. I know a lot of you are going to argue these facts because I have grown up around these things but in reality they are going to fight so hard to protect it. I believe in Amway. I believe in what they sell. The most important thing about Amway is to always be friendly to your family, so they will feel guilty not buying from you, always be closing, always try to sell to your friends and family!! That's what Dexter Yager never gave a crap about. He only cared about the money. Yeah you can make the money but you have to remember the customers since they are the ones that are paying The DeVos's salary, then hopefully you will make a few dollars. The only way to make money is to not genuinely care about the customers you serve. The only way to make money is to tread on everyone, and not give a damn about anyone, then you can succeed, but lose your soul. I don't sell Amway. That is what Yager forgot about when he put such a huge hurt on this company. Don't let a crook like Yager represent you, why would you want to be involved with such a man. The people who say it has ruined their lives well I'm sorry they feel that way. It's called a business with Amway you are in business, working for the Van Andel's and DeVos's, not really for yourself, just like Avon and Mary Kay. If you fail that is on you for not being like Dex, if you are successful that's on you as well. You have to make the sales, it is extremely hard work, and most people don't make any money from it. You have to care about your customers, it's not anyone's fault if you listen to some crack pot like Dexter Yager, it's your own for listening. The basic rule to any form of sales is listen to your customers, care about your customers. Always remember it revolves around customer service.
Ok this is meant for all the Amway haters out there. Dexter Yager really screwed up things for Amway! Yes he made a lot of money but his problem is he thinks he's God but he's not. He didn't care about his customers or the people he sponsored. All he cared about was the money. Jay Van Andel and Rich DeVos did not start this company to hurt anyone (just makes lots of money at any cost). Dexter Yager is a crook. Amway is a multi level marketing company just like Avon or Mary Kay except they carry more than just makeup. It might be about scamming people but it's not about hurting people, it's about selling a product. Dexter Yager really hurt the company with the things that he did. My mother always told me don't let one person ruin a good thing for you. But the fact of the matter is when a person has such a powerful position they can completely destroy something for you and there is nothing you can do about it.
Now my family has been a part of Amway since 1965. My grandparents were very close friends with Rich DeVos and Jay Van Andel. They also knew Dexter Yager. No one has ever had a nice thing to say about that man. But Jay and Rich were very intelligent people and had much integrity towards each other, and knew they could take advantage whilst still appearing nice and charitable. My father grew up with their children. My grandparents used to play bridge with DeVos's and Van Andel's. These are good people trying to run a business that is not like others. They try to offer more than just make-up and perfume. You think it up and they probably sell it if it would make them a buck. Amway is a company that purports to sell quality products, natural products, and getting your money's worth, even though this is proven to be false. I know a lot of you are going to argue these facts because I have grown up around these things but in reality they are going to fight so hard to protect it. I believe in Amway. I believe in what they sell. The most important thing about Amway is to always be friendly to your family, so they will feel guilty not buying from you, always be closing, always try to sell to your friends and family!! That's what Dexter Yager never gave a crap about. He only cared about the money. Yeah you can make the money but you have to remember the customers since they are the ones that are paying The DeVos's salary, then hopefully you will make a few dollars. The only way to make money is to not genuinely care about the customers you serve. The only way to make money is to tread on everyone, and not give a damn about anyone, then you can succeed, but lose your soul. I don't sell Amway. That is what Yager forgot about when he put such a huge hurt on this company. Don't let a crook like Yager represent you, why would you want to be involved with such a man. The people who say it has ruined their lives well I'm sorry they feel that way. It's called a business with Amway you are in business, working for the Van Andel's and DeVos's, not really for yourself, just like Avon and Mary Kay. If you fail that is on you for not being like Dex, if you are successful that's on you as well. You have to make the sales, it is extremely hard work, and most people don't make any money from it. You have to care about your customers, it's not anyone's fault if you listen to some crack pot like Dexter Yager, it's your own for listening. The basic rule to any form of sales is listen to your customers, care about your customers. Always remember it revolves around customer service.
Thursday, March 3, 2011
Dexter Yager Cult
We get many people commenting saying Dexter Yager wouldn't hurt a fly, and that Amway is a way of life that everyone in the world should follow, and we should all drink the kool-aid like members of a cult.
The problem is they are so biased it's beyond ridiculous. They completely ignore any sign of evidence in their face, and go out of their way to bend the truth, and force themselves to believe things not at all based in truth, when there is no good reason they should, except they think they will one day make money out of some scam, or find some kind of salvation, when all your doing is lining the pockets of the leaders with millions of dollars.
When someone becomes an evangelist for someone, everything bad they do these "fan boys" believe is a set up, or someone taking advantage of them, and that the person is not capable of doing any wrong. Just like in the case of Julian Assange. No matter if he is actually as innocent as his white hair, you can't be certain that he did not commit any crimes. More to the point, no one is capable of being 100% good. I challenge anyone to tell me someone who was completely good in life, who never made a single mistake, it is not possible.
On the other side of the coin, nor can you assume he is guilty, that is far worse, to assume someone guilty until proven innocent for any crime.
No, what you must do is look at the evidence.
This is where every single critic of Amway fails. They call people who leave failures. This is similar to a Scientology practice (as documented on the Church of Scientology Volunteer Minister Program, and many other sites) of disconnection - blocking out all free thinkers who don't subscribe to your warped views, the end results being you only hear the warped views, and get no perspective, and don't believe celebrity cult status like saviours could ever do wrong, and any evidence put towards them of the contrary, such as statistically how few people make any money at all out of the system. This just goes to show either these people are dim witted, low intelligence, or perhaps very seriously brainwashed.
The only good indicator of how truthful something is, is to get multiple opinions from different sides of the argument. Look at the court cases a group or individual has been involved in, look how many cases they've tried to settle out of court. Read reviews, both positive and negative. Ignorance is not an excuse. Amway material we have come across goes out of it's way to tell members not to view and read opinions of free thinking non-members, and tarnishing them with very poor arguments and lies. If everything was above board, and your plan was so great, Amway distributors would have nothing to worry about, it would sell itself. However, the truth is very different. They have a vested interest in hiding critical opinions from you, because they want to take your money. Yet the people with critical and analytical points of view are far less likely to have any vested interest either way, except for you to know the truth and facts.
Sure, Dexter Yager has never sexually molested me, but evidence points to this being true for others. On him being God like, harmless, and a gift to the world, what has he ever done for society except take advantage of people, and preach and teach others to do the same, all for the almighty dollar?
You go on believing in your heroes that the rest of society has deemed criminals / cults / generally bad people out to swindle your money, and that 2 plus 2 equals 5, and pretty soon society will treat you the way you deserve.
The problem is they are so biased it's beyond ridiculous. They completely ignore any sign of evidence in their face, and go out of their way to bend the truth, and force themselves to believe things not at all based in truth, when there is no good reason they should, except they think they will one day make money out of some scam, or find some kind of salvation, when all your doing is lining the pockets of the leaders with millions of dollars.
When someone becomes an evangelist for someone, everything bad they do these "fan boys" believe is a set up, or someone taking advantage of them, and that the person is not capable of doing any wrong. Just like in the case of Julian Assange. No matter if he is actually as innocent as his white hair, you can't be certain that he did not commit any crimes. More to the point, no one is capable of being 100% good. I challenge anyone to tell me someone who was completely good in life, who never made a single mistake, it is not possible.
On the other side of the coin, nor can you assume he is guilty, that is far worse, to assume someone guilty until proven innocent for any crime.
No, what you must do is look at the evidence.
This is where every single critic of Amway fails. They call people who leave failures. This is similar to a Scientology practice (as documented on the Church of Scientology Volunteer Minister Program, and many other sites) of disconnection - blocking out all free thinkers who don't subscribe to your warped views, the end results being you only hear the warped views, and get no perspective, and don't believe celebrity cult status like saviours could ever do wrong, and any evidence put towards them of the contrary, such as statistically how few people make any money at all out of the system. This just goes to show either these people are dim witted, low intelligence, or perhaps very seriously brainwashed.
The only good indicator of how truthful something is, is to get multiple opinions from different sides of the argument. Look at the court cases a group or individual has been involved in, look how many cases they've tried to settle out of court. Read reviews, both positive and negative. Ignorance is not an excuse. Amway material we have come across goes out of it's way to tell members not to view and read opinions of free thinking non-members, and tarnishing them with very poor arguments and lies. If everything was above board, and your plan was so great, Amway distributors would have nothing to worry about, it would sell itself. However, the truth is very different. They have a vested interest in hiding critical opinions from you, because they want to take your money. Yet the people with critical and analytical points of view are far less likely to have any vested interest either way, except for you to know the truth and facts.
Sure, Dexter Yager has never sexually molested me, but evidence points to this being true for others. On him being God like, harmless, and a gift to the world, what has he ever done for society except take advantage of people, and preach and teach others to do the same, all for the almighty dollar?
You go on believing in your heroes that the rest of society has deemed criminals / cults / generally bad people out to swindle your money, and that 2 plus 2 equals 5, and pretty soon society will treat you the way you deserve.
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